1 STATE OF MINNESOTA DISTRICT COURT 2 COUNTY OF HENNEPIN THIRTY-EIGTH JUDICIAL DISTRICT 3 _______________________________________ 4 Abraham Gand, Case Type: Personal Injury 5 Plaintiff, 6 vs. 7 Winston Chuchill, and Bill Mirror 8 9 _______________________________________ 10 11 12 VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF Douglas Houser, M.D. 13 14 15 2:10 p.m. 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 Jane Q. Millhouse, Court Reporter 24 1234 Highway 55 #433 25 (612) 555-1212 1 VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF STEVEN Houser, 2 Blackdog Neurological Clinic, General Medical Building, 3 Oak Grove, Minnesota, beginning at approximately 2:10 4 Millhouse, a Notary Public in and for the County of Glass, 5 cause. 6 * * * * * 7 8 APPEARANCES 9 10 ON BEHALF OF THE PLAINTIFF: 11 JOHN D. MASON, ATTORNEY AT LAW 12 Suite 111, Oxbank Square Building 13 Minneapolis, Minnesota 55499 14 15 ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANTS: 16 PHILLIP N. BAGMORT, ATTORNEY AT LAW 17 34566 Red Circle Drive 18 Hopkins, Minnesota 55343-0070 19 20 ALSO PRESENT: 21 Clive Buxton, Videographer 22 23 24 25 1 INDEX 2 3 EXAMINATION OF: 4 DR. Houser 5 By Mr. Mason: 5, 74 6 By Ms. BIGELOW: 46, 80 7 8 OBJECTIONS: 9 By Ms. BIGELOW: 12, 15, 21, 22, 26, 33, 39, 10 40, 42, 46, 49, 68, 76, 77, 11 78, 79, 80, 80, 82 12 By Mr. Mason: (None.) 13 14 15 INDEX TO EXHIBITS 16 EXHIBIT DESCRIPTION MARKED OFFERED 17 1 Curriculum Vitae 35 7 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1 2 This is the videotape VIDEOGRAPHER: 3 deposition of Dr. Steven Houser, taken by the 4 plaintiff in the matter of Abraham Gand versus Winston 5 Chuchill and Bill Mirror, in 6 the Hennepin County District Court, File Number 7 PI 01-99124. 8 This deposition is being held at the Blackdog 9 Neurological Clinic in Oak Grove, Minnesota, on 10 May 16, 2002. My name is Clive Buxton, I'm the 11 videographer, the court reporter is Jane Millhouse, and we 12 are going on the record at 2:11 p.m. 13 Counsel may now state their appearance for the 14 record. 15 John Mason, for the plaintiff MR. MASON: 16 Abraham Gand. 17 Angela Bigelow, on the MS. BIGELOW: 18 behalf of the defendants Winston Chuchill and Bill 19 Mirror. 20 Please swear in the VIDEOGRAPHER: 21 witness. 22 STEVEN Houser, M.D., 23 called as a witness herein, 24 having been first by me duly sworn, 25 was 0 0 examined 0 0 and 0 0 testified 0 0 as 0 0 follows: 0 0 1 DIRECT EXAMINATION 2 BY MR. MASON: 3 Q: Doctor, 723 723 please 723 1446 introd- 1446 2169 introduce 2169 2892 yourself 2892 3615 to 3615 4338 the 4340 4420 jury. 4420 4819 4 A: My 5258 5438 name 5438 5628 is 5628 5917 Steven 5917 6246 Houser, 6246 6610 Dr. 6610 6781 Steven 6781 7171 Houser. 7171 8811 5 Q: And 9055 9275 what 9275 9415 is 9415 9505 your 9505 9704 field 9704 9993 of 9993 10123 specialty, 10123 10652 Doctor? 10652 11335 6 A: I'm 11474 11604 a 11604 11644 neurologist. 11644 13311 7 Q: Do 13311 13371 you 13371 13490 treat 13490 13780 patients 13780 14508 that 14508 14698 have 14698 14877 been 14877 15167 injured 15167 15526 in 15526 15655 motor 15655 15975 8 vehicle 15975 16384 collisions? 16384 17092 9 A: Yes. 17286 17725 I 17725 17935 have 17935 18224 been 18224 18344 treating 18344 18663 patients 18663 19053 involved 19053 19492 in 19492 19621 motor 19621 20046 10 vehicle 20046 20365 collisions 20365 20804 for 20804 20994 approximately 20994 21632 21 21632 22131 years. 22131 22540 11 Q: You 23183 23453 told 23453 23742 us 23742 24093 that 24093 24444 you 24444 24795 are 24795 25146 a 25146 25497 neurologist. 25497 25833 Can 25833 26003 you 26003 26177 please 26177 26571 12 tell 26571 26791 us 26791 27145 what 27145 27335 your 27335 27564 education 27564 28153 and 28153 28283 training 28283 28652 has 28652 28861 been? 28861 29136 13 A: I'll 29375 29564 start 29564 30243 -- 30243 30243 from 30243 30742 college 30742 31311 or 31311 31420 from 31420 31540 medical 31540 31979 school? 31979 32688 14 Where 32698 32858 do 32858 32917 you 32917 32987 want 32987 33107 me 33107 33197 to 33197 33257 begin? 33257 34294 15 Q: Medical 34294 34664 school 34664 35003 is 35003 35123 fine. 35123 35352 16 A: Okay. 35826 36202 Starting 36202 36621 with 36621 36781 medical 36781 37120 school, 37120 37156 I 37156 37236 attended 37236 38409 Emory 38409 39583 17 University 39583 40181 School 40181 40600 of 40600 40690 Medicine 40690 41169 from 41169 41439 1971 41439 42476 to 42476 42546 18 1975, 42561 43990 acquired 43990 44369 my 44369 44489 M.D. 44489 45188 from 45188 45437 there 45437 45677 in 45677 45756 1975. 45756 46823 I 46823 47223 then 47223 47623 did 47623 48024 19 my 48024 48114 internship 48114 48832 at 48832 48952 St. 48952 49291 Louis 49291 49571 University 49571 50110 Hospitals 50110 50598 in 50598 50718 20 St. 50718 50983 Louis, 50983 51262 Missouri 51262 51861 from 51861 52477 1976 52477 53515 to 53515 54199 1977. 54199 54883 From 54883 55567 1977 55567 56251 to 56251 56935 21 1980 56949 57728 I 57728 57897 had 57897 58047 my 58047 58187 training 58187 58566 interrupted, 58566 59366 as 59366 59536 I 59536 59790 owed 59790 60044 the 60044 60298 22 military 60298 60552 some 60552 60806 time, 60806 60988 and 60988 61237 served 61237 61537 as 61537 61636 a 61636 61706 general 61706 62006 medical 62006 62732 23 officer 62732 63191 for 63191 63350 the 63350 63420 U.S. 63420 63710 Army 63710 63989 for 63989 64129 those 64129 64418 three 64418 64677 years. 64677 65007 24 Following 65216 65705 that 65705 65919 I 65919 66029 then 66029 66238 resumed 66238 66729 training 66729 67220 and 67220 67711 did 67711 68200 25 neurology 68200 68679 residency 68679 69197 training 69197 69711 at 69711 69898 NYU 69898 70247 university 70247 71086 in 71086 71415 New 71415 71565 Haven, 71565 72131 1 Connecticut, 72131 72630 from 72630 72829 1980 72829 73707 to 73707 73847 1983. 73847 74735 During 74735 75733 the 75733 75793 last 75793 76112 2 year 76112 76362 I 76362 76422 was 76422 76611 there 76611 77045 I 77045 77165 served 77165 77504 as 77504 77633 the 77633 77703 chief 77703 77953 resident 77953 78462 on 78462 78551 the 78551 78786 3 neurology 78786 79265 service. 79265 79724 4 Q: Thank 79724 80832 you. 80832 81345 Are 81345 81614 you 81614 81754 board 81754 82024 certified? 82024 82887 5 A: Yes. 83061 84134 6 Q: In 84134 84404 what 84404 84613 area? 84613 85302 7 A: I 85302 85412 am 85412 85591 board 85591 85821 certified 85821 86320 in 86320 86380 neurology. 86380 87008 8 Q: Do 87008 88325 you 88325 88625 have 88625 88804 any 88804 89024 staff 89024 89453 privileges 89453 90171 or 90171 90351 associations 90351 91259 at 91259 91359 any 91359 91628 9 area 91628 91947 hospitals? 91947 92447 10 A: I'm 92447 92947 on 92947 93447 staff 93447 93848 at 93848 94067 South 94067 94387 Memorial 94387 94816 Medical 94816 95165 Center. 95165 96535 11 Q: Where 96535 97936 are 97936 98205 you 98205 98355 currently 98355 98754 employed? 98754 100099 12 A: I 100099 100219 own 100219 101122 and 101122 102035 -- 102035 102035 am 102035 102145 employed 102145 102893 by 102893 103102 the 103102 103302 Blackdog 103302 104011 13 Neurological 104011 104799 Clinic. 104799 105418 Main 105418 105657 office 105657 105976 is 105976 106186 in 106186 106346 Oak 106346 106605 Grove 106605 106874 14 Minnesota; 106874 107962 we 107962 108102 have 108102 108231 a 108231 108271 satellite 108271 108700 office 108700 109020 in 109020 109189 Lake 109189 109379 Elmo. 109379 109668 15 Q: Do 109668 110566 you 110566 110636 have 110636 110836 any 110836 111135 medical 111135 111544 or 111544 111843 scientific 111843 112462 publications? 112462 113430 16 A: I 113430 113480 have 113480 114328 a 114328 114747 -- 114747 114747 well, 114747 115176 depends 115176 115475 on 115475 115635 how 115635 116004 -- 116004 116004 how 116004 116393 far 116393 116663 back 116663 116902 you 116902 117002 17 want 117002 117162 to 117162 117222 go. 117222 117481 There 117481 118120 is 118120 118189 one 118189 118399 publication 118399 119067 from 119067 119407 -- 119407 119407 in 119407 119766 the 119766 119906 18 American 119906 120993 Journal 120993 121332 of 121332 121452 Physiology 121452 122061 back 122061 122300 in 122300 122420 the 122420 122480 1970s 122480 123498 on 123498 123907 19 carotid 123907 124456 sinus 124456 124825 baroreceptors. 124825 126092 There's 126092 126351 another 126351 126650 article 126650 126949 20 on 126949 127248 "Myofascial 127249 127938 Release 127938 128257 Therapy 128257 128826 in 128826 129065 the 129065 129165 treatment 129165 129514 of 129514 129574 soft 129574 129914 21 tissue 129914 130223 injury" 130223 130756 that 130756 130876 I 130876 130976 have 130976 131165 under 131165 131385 copyright, 131385 131984 and 131984 132054 I 132054 132133 have 132133 132388 22 a 132388 132418 submission 132418 132887 currently 132887 133276 to 133276 133416 the 133416 133526 Journal 133526 133855 of 133855 133915 the 133915 133975 American 133975 134354 23 Medical 134354 134693 Association 134693 135596 on 135596 135705 the 135705 135805 role 135805 136035 of 136035 136094 the 136094 136154 statin 136154 136553 drugs 136553 136865 in 136865 137337 24 producing 137337 137726 muscle 137726 138026 injury. 138026 139859 25 Q: I'm 139859 141692 showing 141692 141807 you 141807 141922 a 141922 142037 copy 142037 142154 of 142154 142246 Plaintiff's 142246 142338 Exhibit 142338 142431 1. 142431 142770 SIL_PAUSE 142770 143589 Is 143589 145998 1 that 145998 147116 a 147116 147156 -- 147166 147156 do 147166 147225 you 147225 147365 recognize 147365 147864 that 147864 148073 document? 148073 149021 2 A: That's 149186 149495 a 149495 149565 copy 149565 149984 of 149984 150251 my 150251 150390 curriculum 150390 150919 vitae. 150919 151586 3 Q: Is 151596 151765 it 151765 152523 current? 152523 153281 4 A: Yes. 153281 154039 5 MR. MASON: I 154039 154797 would 154797 155555 offer 155555 156305 that 156305 156475 into 156475 156645 evidence. 156645 157363 6 BY MR. MASON: 7 Q: Doctor, 158141 158334 do 158334 158524 you 158524 158693 know 158693 159122 Abraham 159122 159641 Gand? 159641 161284 8 A: Yes, 161454 161793 I 161793 161863 do. 161863 162272 9 Q: How 162521 162970 do 162970 163060 you 163060 163180 know 163180 163349 him? 163349 163769 10 A: He's 164208 164398 a 164398 164457 patient 164457 164976 that 164976 165136 was 165136 165266 referred 165266 165675 to 165675 165794 me 165794 166044 by 166044 166224 the 166224 166852 11 chiropractor 166852 167511 who 167511 167571 had 167571 167700 been 167700 167830 treating 167830 168149 him 168149 168259 following 168259 168628 an 168628 168688 12 accident 168688 169137 that 169137 169297 he 169297 169357 was 169357 169516 in. 169516 170604 13 Q: And 170604 171482 what 171482 171711 are 171711 171771 you 171771 171921 treating 171921 172584 Abraham 172584 173053 Gand 173053 173422 for? 173422 174606 14 A: When 174606 175500 I 175500 175832 -- 175967 175832 well, 175967 176316 I've 176316 176535 been 176535 176932 treating 176932 177531 Abraham 177531 177900 Gand 177900 178210 for 178210 178955 15 injuries 178955 179434 to 179434 179554 the 179554 179654 neck 179654 179953 and 179953 180173 back 180173 180597 and 180597 180746 some 180746 180896 associated 180896 181490 16 headaches 181490 181849 following 181849 182248 a 182248 182338 car 182338 182607 accident 182607 182833 that 182833 183059 took 183059 183286 place 183286 183535 on 183535 183625 17 October 183625 183974 20th, 183974 184344 1999. 184344 185232 18 Q: What 185232 186120 was 186120 186850 the 186850 187119 chiropractor 187119 187927 treating 187927 188337 him 188337 188587 for 188587 188906 that 188906 189362 19 referred 189427 189826 Abraham 189826 190255 to 190255 190435 you? 190435 190819 20 A: I 191398 191488 believe 191488 192016 the 192016 192126 chiropractor 192126 192805 was 192805 192974 treating 192974 193383 him 193383 193562 for 193562 193782 the 193782 194771 21 same 194771 195080 injury. 195080 195495 That 195495 195910 chiropractor 195910 196325 was 196325 196740 Dr. 196741 197220 Graybo, 197220 197794 22 Dr. 197794 198772 Larry 198772 199360 Graybo. 199360 200548 23 Q: When 200548 200807 did 200807 200987 you 200987 201226 first 201226 201556 see 201556 201765 Abraham 201765 202314 Gand? 202314 203242 24 A: I 203242 203342 first 203342 203691 saw 203691 203890 him 203890 204170 on 204170 204838 November 204838 205387 1st 205387 205716 of 205716 205796 2000. 205796 207802 25 Q: And 207802 208021 did 208021 208221 you 208221 208361 take 208361 208570 a 208570 208640 history 208640 209039 at 209039 209189 that 209189 209418 time? 209418 209937 1 A: Yes, 209937 210356 I 210356 210396 did. 210396 211863 2 Q: And 211873 212167 what 212167 212496 is 212496 212656 a 212656 212716 history? 212716 213270 3 A: A 213270 213369 history 213369 214607 is 214607 215136 that 215136 215375 portion 215375 215694 of 215694 215784 the 215784 215854 examination 215854 216582 where 216582 216712 the 216712 216852 4 patient 216852 217241 relates 217241 217620 the 217620 217690 complaints, 217690 218518 where 218518 218778 they 218778 218887 relate 218887 219296 how 219296 219506 5 the 219506 219606 complaints 219606 220035 arose, 220035 221162 what 221162 221332 conditions 221332 221741 were 221741 221841 responsible 221841 222370 6 for 222370 222499 the 222499 222599 development 222599 223038 of 223038 223098 the 223098 223158 symptoms, 223158 224240 and 224240 224310 then 224310 224460 any 224460 224804 7 treatment 224804 225253 that 225253 225363 they 225363 225493 may 225493 225682 have 225682 225822 received 225822 226381 or 226381 226461 any 226461 226600 testing 226600 227059 8 they 227059 227119 may 227119 227209 have 227209 227339 undergone 227339 227937 prior 227937 228257 to 228257 228357 the 228357 228456 time 228456 228706 they 228706 229298 were 229298 229890 9 seen. 229890 230482 10 Q: Tell 230482 230651 us 230651 230811 about 230811 231260 the 231260 231490 history 231490 232098 you 232098 232218 obtained 232218 232767 from 232767 233465 11 Mr. 233465 233934 Gand. 233934 235221 12 A: Mr. 235221 235511 Gand 235511 235880 stated 235880 236349 that 236349 236519 he 236519 236588 was 236588 236738 involved 236738 237307 in 237307 237516 a 237516 237706 motor 237706 238025 13 vehicle 238025 238434 accident 238434 238784 that 238784 238903 took 238903 239113 place 239113 239612 on 239612 240111 October 240111 240610 20th, 240610 241109 1999, 241109 241608 14 and 241608 242107 as 242107 242606 a 242606 243105 consequence 243105 243558 of 243558 243628 that 243628 243887 was 243887 244017 suffering 244017 244396 from 244396 244661 15 headache, 244661 245429 neck 245429 245748 pain, 245748 246038 and 246038 246197 low 246197 246347 back 246347 246676 pain. 246676 246826 0 test test 2005-12-14 00:00:00 1 8 MASON test 25